Flipside Movie Emporium Forum Index Flipside Movie Emporium
Discussion Forums Locked & Archived for Browsing
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Screening Log 2005 - What did you watch this week?
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 37, 38, 39 ... 44, 45, 46  Next
 
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Flipside Movie Emporium Forum Index -> Movie Talk
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Danny Baldwin
Studio Exec


Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Posts: 1354
Location: San Diego, CA

PostPosted: 10.21.2005 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance the High Tension DVD has the subtitled version, NW? I'd like to watch that before the dubbed one, if I can...

A lot of people seem to like it a lot more, for understandable reasons.
_________________
Danny Baldwin

View My Reviews
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
Michael Scrutchin
Studio President


Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Posts: 832
Location: Pearland, TX

PostPosted: 10.21.2005 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny Baldwin wrote:
Any chance the High Tension DVD has the subtitled version, NW? I'd like to watch that before the dubbed one, if I can...


Yeah, the DVD has both versions -- dubbed and subtitled.

I'm with NW on High Tension: Aja has talent, but boy is it a stupid movie.
_________________
Michael Scrutchin
Flipside Movie Emporium
www.flipsidearchive.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
the night watchman
Studio Exec


Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.

PostPosted: 10.21.2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael B. Scrutchin wrote:
Aja has talent, but boy is it a stupid movie.


Agreed. I'll be looking forward to Aja's next movie. Hopefully he'll play fair.

I watched the uncut version with subtitles, Danny, but after the first twenty minutes there's not a whole lot of dialogue anyway.
_________________
"If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."

-David Cronenberg
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
beltmann
Studio Exec


Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Posts: 2341
Location: West Bend, WI

PostPosted: 10.21.2005 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't disagree with any of NW's or Michael's criticisms of High Tension, especially about the twist being a massive cheat... but at the same time I think I was more willing to enjoy--or be suckered by?--what actually did work in terms of pacing, style, and tone. Here?s what I jotted down earlier in this forum: ?Most reviewers correctly nailed High Tension for its stupid twist ending and ridiculous dubbing (which inexplicably comes and goes). Yet none of them bothered to mention how, for most of the way, Aja creates a gripping exercise in first-person perspective?almost everything transpires from the POV of the main character, which often relegates the violence just out of sight or barely within earshot. (Don?t let the complaints of graphic violence scare you off? what?s truly shocking is Aja?s surprisingly tasteful restraint.) There are several taut sequences in the film?s midsection that are genuinely impressive. Too bad about that awful, nonsense ending, which really does mar the entire enterprise.?

Was I wrong about Aja?s ?restraint?? Maybe. But I know that while I was peeved about the ending, I never felt the movie was overtly cruel and brutish--perhaps because Aja stages his violence with an eye for first-person tension rather than merely for aesthetic "beauty."

I guess the movie?s considerable flaws didn?t let me forget that, for most of the way, I had a reasonably good time. I'm quite surprised that out of the three of us, I'm the one who liked it best.

Eric
_________________
"When I was in Barcelona they showed pornography on regular television. I'm assuming it's the same way in Mexico since they also speak Spanish." - IMDb user comment
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Jim Harper
Director


Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Posts: 226
Location: Totnes, Devon, UK

PostPosted: 10.21.2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved it, twist ending or not. It tricks the viewer, but it doesn't ruin the film. Mind you, I was clued into it from the start, especially since it's a witness account, and the main film opens in a dream.

I think the twist was primarily done to piss off anyone who subscribes to absurd feminist readings of slasher movies. He's not playing fair, but it's a worthy aim. Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
Jim Harper
Director


Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Posts: 226
Location: Totnes, Devon, UK

PostPosted: 10.21.2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

11/10/05 - 21/10/05

The Eye 2 (dir. Oxide & Danny Pang, 2004)*

What Have You Done to Solange? (dir. Massimo Dallamano, 1972)*

Evil Breed: The Legend of Sam Haim (dir. Christian Viel, 2003)*

Junk (dir. Atsushi Muroga, 2000)

Frankenfish (dir. Mark AZ Dippe, 2004)*

Exorcist: The Beginning (dir. Renny Harlin, 2004)

Evil Dead Trap (dir. Toshiharu Ikeda, 1988)

Wizard of Darkness (dir. Shimiko Sato, 1992)

Anatomy (dir. Stefan Ruzowitzky, 2000)

Uzumaki (dir. Higuchinsky, 2000)

House of Wax (dir. Jaume Collet-Serra, 2005)*

Guard from the Underground (dir. Kiyoshi Kurosawa, 1994)

Spider Labyrinth (dir. Gianfranco Giagni, 1988)

Hellboy (dir. Guillermo Del Toro, 2004)

Infection (dir. Masayuki Ochiai, 2004)

Saw (dir. James Wan, 2004)

Identity (dir. James Mangold, 2003)

Kingdom of Heaven (dir. Ridley Scott, 2004)*

Return of the Blind Dead (dir. Amando de Ossorio, 1972)

The Living Dead at the Manchester Morgue (dir. Jorge Grau, 1972)

The Hound of the Baskervilles (dir. Terence Fisher, 1959)*

Okay, here goes. The Eye 2 is a ponderous, bleak film with a very infuriating payoff that pretty much negates the main premise of the film. Avoid.

What Have You Done to Solange? is an above-average giallo with plenty of sleazy and violence thrown in. Not as good as Argento (for example), but much better than many such attempts. Incredibly un-PC; I can see why this is unlikely to get an uncut UK release any time soon.

House of Wax is cheessy fun, while Evil Breed is the most boring film to feature several pornstars. Total amateur crap. Frankenfish however is considerably more entertaining than any movie about giant fish has any right to be.

Kingdom of Heaven was great. Nice to see a balanced (and accurate) portrayal of the Crusades, and well-acted all round too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
the night watchman
Studio Exec


Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.

PostPosted: 10.22.2005 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Harper wrote:
I think the twist was primarily done to piss off anyone who subscribes to absurd feminist readings of slasher movies. He's not playing fair, but it's a worthy aim. Very Happy


Point taken. Cool
_________________
"If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."

-David Cronenberg
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
the night watchman
Studio Exec


Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.

PostPosted: 10.22.2005 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Harper wrote:
Frankenfish however is considerably more entertaining than any movie about giant fish has any right to be.


I'll probably have to check this out. I've read a surprising amout of positive reviews about this flick, and as self-proclaimed connoisseur of monster movies I feel compelled to watch it.
_________________
"If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."

-David Cronenberg
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
the night watchman
Studio Exec


Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.

PostPosted: 10.22.2005 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beltmann wrote:
Too bad about that awful, nonsense ending, which really does mar the entire enterprise.?


I didn't mind the nature of the twist; I minded that it renders impossible the apparent narrative we've witnessed. And while the twist may explain some of the behaviors of characters, it made none of it any less aggravating while I was watching it.

beltmann wrote:
Was I wrong about Aja?s ?restraint?? Maybe. But I know that while I was peeved about the ending, I never felt the movie was overtly cruel and brutish--perhaps because Aja stages his violence with an eye for first-person tension rather than merely for aesthetic "beauty."


Did you watch the R rated version? 'Cause "restraint" ain?t a word that comes to mind to describe the movie I saw. I don't mean that as a criticism, by the way; splatter doesn't easily shock or unsettle me, and I appreciate a movie that can make me gasp. And my friend and I did have fun screaming "Aah! La terreur!" during the shock scenes. Hey, you gotta take it where you can get it.
_________________
"If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."

-David Cronenberg
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Jim Harper
Director


Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Posts: 226
Location: Totnes, Devon, UK

PostPosted: 10.22.2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the night watchman wrote:
I'll probably have to check this out. I've read a surprising amout of positive reviews about this flick, and as self-proclaimed connoisseur of monster movies I feel compelled to watch it.


For the price of a rental, it's worth it. It's got some surprisingly good CGI, a lot more gore than most films of its kind, China Chow (niece of Tsai Chin, who played Lin Tang in the Christopher Lee Fu Manchu movies!) and Terr O'Quinn. What more could you ask for?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
beltmann
Studio Exec


Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Posts: 2341
Location: West Bend, WI

PostPosted: 10.23.2005 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the night watchman wrote:


I didn't mind the nature of the twist; I minded that it renders impossible the apparent narrative we've witnessed.


Exactly.

the night watchman wrote:
Did you watch the R rated version? 'Cause "restraint" ain?t a word that comes to mind to describe the movie I saw.


No, I saw the uncut version... it's just that the first-person POV forces much out of frame that many directors wouldn't have been able to resist including. It's been too long since I saw it for me to cite a specific example, but I remember noticing that "restraint" several times throughout the movie.

Of course, when Aja does go for it, he gets his gore good.
_________________
"When I was in Barcelona they showed pornography on regular television. I'm assuming it's the same way in Mexico since they also speak Spanish." - IMDb user comment
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
the night watchman
Studio Exec


Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.

PostPosted: 10.23.2005 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beltmann wrote:


Of course, when Aja does go for it, he gets his gore good.


Yep. If nothing else, High Tension is one of the most visceral cinematic experiences I've had in a while.
_________________
"If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."

-David Cronenberg
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Jim Harper
Director


Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Posts: 226
Location: Totnes, Devon, UK

PostPosted: 10.23.2005 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the night watchman wrote:
I didn't mind the nature of the twist; I minded that it renders impossible the apparent narrative we've witnessed.


But it doesn't really; you just have to shift the perspective and tweak a few details. It's not perfect, but it works Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger
the night watchman
Studio Exec


Joined: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 1373
Location: Dark, run-down shack by the graveyard.

PostPosted: 10.23.2005 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Harper wrote:
But it doesn't really; you just have to shift the perspective and tweak a few details. It's not perfect, but it works Very Happy


Here are some of my biggest logistical problems with the plot (Major Spoilers, highlight to read): Whence the killer's truck? The shotgun? The chain, padlock, and surgical hose Marie used to bind Alex? How can a girl who can't shift a bureau in her room successfully decapitate a man with a dresser? How can she cut the hands off a woman with a straight razor? Whence the straight razor? How can we explain the transit from the house to the gas station if both girls are locked in the back of the truck? Why was the back lined with bloody scratch marks (that Alex saw before Marie)? Who was the counterman looking at if Marie was the only one in the store with him? Why kill him if he wasn't looking at anyone? How does Marie manage to get both the truck and the counterman?s car out to the boonies simultaneously? I realize all these problems can be explained away by citing Marie's status as a highly unreliable ?narrator,? and that all incongruities are a part of her overwhelmingly complex fantasy, but that gets the movie off the hook way too easily for me and, anyway, where?s the fun if the line between fantasy and reality is completely and hopelessly obscure?
_________________
"If you're talking about censorship, and what things should be shown and what things shouldn't be shown, I've said that as an artist you have no social responsibility whatsoever."

-David Cronenberg
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Danny Baldwin
Studio Exec


Joined: 26 Jun 2003
Posts: 1354
Location: San Diego, CA

PostPosted: 10.27.2005 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10/20-10/26

In chronological order

Stay (Forster, 2005) - The anti-climatic ending twist didn't bother me in the least, mainly because of the fact that my mind was so eager and inquisitve when trying to figure out what was happening. There are some dead giveaways throughout the duration, to be sure, but its mere ability to make me simultaneously entertain numerous possibilities made it a worthy experience. Ewan McGregor is awesome, Ryan Gosling is creepy, and Naomi Watts is hot. It's one to see.

North Country (Caro, 2005) - Like Crash, the movie tritely tries to make its messages seem too universal, rather than focusing on the delicate brutality of the events which unfold throughout the plot. Still, it's no small feat that I believed Charlize Theron in the role without all her Monster makeup, and that I found myself reacting to the material as much as I did. The portrayal of how sexual harrassment affects the protagonist in her daily life is questionable, in certain ways, and the third-act is melodramatic, but Niki Caro and her cast (especially Theron and Richard Jenkins) pull it off.

Goodnight and Good Luck (Clooney, 2005) - I'm conflicted. Some of me says that focusing on Thomas McCarthy brings historical relevance to the insight on the media that George Clooney would like to portray here, but the majority of me thinks that his lack of detail hinders his statement. All he really has to say about the communist witch hunts is "Ah! A conservative thought of them and therefore all modern conservatives are evil!" Still, his portrayal of journalism and its effects is entirely riveting, and the creamy B&W photography of the movie is beautiful. I was surprised by how entertaining it was.

Domino (Scott, 2005) - Ridiculous and incoherant--and I freggin' love it. Keira Knightley's goin' crazy with nunchucks, Christopher Walken's watching it all unfold on camera, there's a strange scene of desert copulation, random dialogue is subtitled all over the screen, and a character's arm is shot off so that his tatoo which holds the code to a safe. To me, Tony Scott's movies are like those that Tarantino would've made as a teenager; they're unpolished and all over the place, but likably so.

I'll refrain from listing them preferentially, as all are solid efforts, despite none of them being remarkable.
_________________
Danny Baldwin

View My Reviews
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Flipside Movie Emporium Forum Index -> Movie Talk All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 37, 38, 39 ... 44, 45, 46  Next
Page 38 of 46

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001-2007 phpBB Group