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beltmann
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PostPosted: 11.29.2003 3:08 am    Post subject: Favorite Adventures Reply with quote

I must admit that the action/adventure genre is not one of my favorites, but of course a well-made example can win me over. Seeing Master and Commander got me thinking about other large-scale adventure films that I respond to. Here's a few that I have fondness for:

Raiders of the Lost Ark (Spielberg, 1981)

Three Kings (Russell, 1999)

Lawrence of Arabia (Lean, 1962)

Gunga Din (Stevens, 1939)

The Guns of Navarone (Thompson, 1961)

The Last of the Mohicans (Mann, 1992)

Mutiny on the Bounty (Lloyd, 1935)

Hatari! (Hawks, 1962)

Beau Geste (Wellman, 1939)

Five Graves to Cairo (Wilder, 1943)

Captain Blood (Curtiz, 1935)

On Guard (De Broca, 1997)

Rob Roy (Caton-Jones, 1995)

Gladiator (Scott, 2000)

El Cid (Mann, 1961)

The Black Pirate (Parker, 1926)

Treasure Island (Haskin, 1950)

There are many others, of course, but that's a start. How about yours?

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PostPosted: 11.29.2003 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen very few classic adventure movies - only five from Beltmann's list - but I'd add:

"The Adventures of Robin Hood" (Curtis/Keighley)

"Barry Lyndon" (Kubrick)

"Braveheart" (Gibson)

"The Court Jester" (Panama/Frank)

"Doctor Zhivago" (Lean)

"The Empire Strikes Back" (Kershner)

"From Russia with Love" (Young)

"Glory" (Zwick)

"The Great Escape" (Sturges)

"Hero" (Yimou)

"Jurassic Park" (Spielberg)

"Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring" (Jackson)

"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" (Ford)

"Napoleon" (Gance)

"The Princess Bride" (Reiner)

"Once Upon a Time in the West" (Leone)

"The Quiet Man" (Ford)

"Ran" (Kurosawa)

"The Seven Samurai" (Kurosawa)

"Spirited Away" (Miyazaki)

"The Train" (Frankenheimer)

"Twelve Monkeys" (Gilliam)

And I agree about "Master and Commander" - wonderful!
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PostPosted: 11.29.2003 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen too many classic adventure movies either, but here are mine, using the term "adventure" very broadly:

Raiders of the Lost Ark (Speilberg, 1981)

Mad Max (George Miller, 1979)

The Road Warrior (George Miller, 1981)

Aliens (James Cameron, 1986)

Conan the Barbarian (John Milius, 1982)

Princess Mononoke (Hayao Miyazaki, 1997)

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (Sergio Leone, 1966)

The Last of the Mohicans (Michael Mann, 1992)

The 13th Warrior (Michael Critchon/John McTiernan, 1999)

Star Wars/The Empire Strikes Back (George Lucas/Irvin Kershner, 1977/1980)

The Seven Samurai (Akira Kurosawa, 1954)

King Kong (Merian C. Cooper, 1933)

The Lost World: Jurassic Park (Steven Speilberg, 1997)

Rob Roy (Michael Caton-Jones, 1995)

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (Nicholas Meyer, 1982)

Army of Darkness (Sam Raimi, 1993)

Dances with Wolves (Kevin Costner, 1990)

Glory (Edwar Zwick, 1989)

Hope and Glory (John Boorman, 1987)

I thought Barry Lyndon and The Princess Bride were interesting choices, Matt, but I couldn't quite convince myself they were strickly adventure movies. (Of course, I did include Army of Darkness, so what the hell do I know?) I'd also include Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy, but I want to see The Return of the King before I do.
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PostPosted: 11.30.2003 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree about a lot of your choices, guys; many would have made my list except I imposed a very strict definition on myself: no sci-fi, no Westerns, no comedy-adventures. I also avoided, for the most part, obvious war pictures.

Interesting pick, NW, with Hope and Glory. That's easily my favorite Boorman film, although I'm not sure I'd describe it as adventure rather than drama. I was this close to including some Kurosawa on my list, too, but I wanted to shy away from the samurai or martial-arts genres.

Matt, Great Escape, From Russia With Love, and Adventures of Robin Hood all got cut from my list at the last minute. Excellent choices, though. Hero would have made it for sure except for the aforementioned aversion to martial-arts.

I know I excluded a lot of adventure-oriented fare--probably unfairly--but I didn't want to list movies stuck in genre clothing. I wanted to think about flicks whose genre was adventure, pure and simple. Perhaps that attempt was entirely useless, though--is it even possible to separate adventure from genre?

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PostPosted: 11.30.2003 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Night Watchman--Lost World: Jurassic Park, but not the original? I nearly included the first one, but the sci-fi label got in the way. (I recently re-watched the third installment; man, that one is weak.)

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PostPosted: 11.30.2003 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric -- I've been a dinosaur freak since I was but a young'un. I love all three of the JP movies with all my heart, weaknesses and all, but Lost World is my favorite simply because I've been waiting to see a tyrannosaur rampaging down a busy city street since I was around seven. Lost World granted that wish. Thank you, Mr. Speilberg. Thank you.
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PostPosted: 11.30.2003 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beltmann wrote:
I wanted to think about flicks whose genre was adventure, pure and simple. Perhaps that attempt was entirely useless, though--is it even possible to separate adventure from genre?


That's the problem I was having while putting together my list, so I just threw everything in that seemed appropriate. There seems to be a slight difference between action and adventure to me; for instance, I listed Mad Max, but not Die Hard. Maybe modern day seems less "adventure-y" than the future or the past. I've also seen only a handful of strictly adventure movies; or, at least, good ones, unless I were to include stuff like Treasure of the Four Crowns or Slave of the Cannibal God, which might have gotten me tossed out of the forum.

Speaking of the past, I'd like to add Pirates of the Carabbean to my list.
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PostPosted: 11.30.2003 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops, Excalibur, too. How could I have forgotten that one? Sheesh.

Aargh! And Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon!
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PostPosted: 02.15.2004 7:07 am    Post subject: hey everyone, Reply with quote

beltmann is an idiot and wrong about this. Here are the real good adventures:

"Beltmann is an Idiot"

"Idiots in the Outfield with Beltmann"

"The Godfather of Idiots (Beltmann)"

"Me, Myself, and Idiot Beltmann"

"Beltmann: Lord of the Idiots"

"About Idiot Beltmann"

"American Idiot Beltmann"

"Beltmann goes to Idiot Town and Becomes President Because He's Such an Idiot"

"The Idiot King: Beltmann"

"An Idiot's Life: All about Beltmann"

"What Women Don't Want (Beltmann)"

"Idiots of The Carribean: The Curse of Beltmann"

"How to Lose a Girl Instantly (Be Beltmann)"

"My Big Fat Stupid Idiot"

"American Ugly"

"The Last of the Idiots"

"Idiot and Idioter"

"Idiot and Idioterer: Beltmann Clones Himself"

"The Incredible Idiot"

"Saving Private Idiot"

"I.D.I.O.T."

"Nightmare on Cool Street (Beltmann Shows Up)"

"Idiot and the Bandit"

"The Idiot Machine"

"Honey, I Shrunk My Pee-Pee"

"The Idiot Professer"

"The League of Extaordinary Idiots"
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PostPosted: 02.15.2004 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: hey everyone, Reply with quote

i_hate_beltmann wrote:


"Idiot and Idioter: Beltmann Clones Himself"



I'm sorry, the scientific supposition of this one doesn't hold water; a clone would not be idioter than the original. Assuming strictly for the sake of argument, of course, that the original in question was initially an idiot.
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PostPosted: 02.15.2004 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to agree. However, the cinematography was quite glorious.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: hey everyone, Reply with quote

i_hate_beltmann wrote:
"The League of Extaordinary Idiots"


I lolled
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PostPosted: 02.19.2004 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The League of Extaordinary Idiots"

I hear the DVD is being released with special commentary by director Beltman himself.
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PostPosted: 02.25.2004 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: hey everyone, Reply with quote

the night watchman wrote:
i_hate_beltmann wrote:


"Idiot and Idioter: Beltmann Clones Himself"



I'm sorry, the scientific supposition of this one doesn't hold water; a clone would not be idioter than the original. Assuming strictly for the sake of argument, of course, that the original in question was initially an idiot.


Well, even if i don't agree with this "i_hate_beltmann" individual, a clone can be on a different plane of intellect than the orginal. Say the orginal goes to school and the clone doesn't. The orginal would be smarter, unless of course the schooling was a complete failure, but for the sake of argument, its possible.
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PostPosted: 02.25.2004 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, you're right. I was talking about inherent intelligence, but even then the brain continues to develop after birth, so, yeah, a clone could be idioter than the original. There goes my joke.
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