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PostPosted: 02.20.2004 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see it as making light of the Holocaust; it is a film that uses Guido's irrepressible lunacy to heighten the dread of the Holocaust, and to provide a bittersweet example of the human spirit persevering through something as horrendous as genocide. Indeed, whenever anyone's called it depressing or gloomy, I disagree; I think it's quite an optimistic movie. Sure, Guido sacrificed himself, but it (rather unrealistically) hypothesizes that because of his father, Giosue could survive the trauma rather unscathed.

While I usually don't like Benigni's films, and I too find his offscreen personality abrasively self-congratulatory, I did find his pratfalling charming in Life is Beautiful. Of course his gags can't much Buster Keaton, Lauren & Hardy, etc., but they do echo the flavor of silent comedy, which is something impressive nowadays. I suppose where you found countless "[exercises] in self-indulgence," I found genuinely creative ideas. And while there is certainly evidence that he takes limitless pride in his own comedy, there is also a definite humanity to them; if they do contain annoying self-indulgence, I think they contain at least as much sweetness and joy.
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PostPosted: 02.20.2004 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Vaux wrote:
[Benigni] cleverly disguises the fact that his ego is just enormous. Monstrous. Grotesque. This is a man who thought he could replace Peter Sellers in the Pink Panther films. This is a man who thought he could play Pinocchio at age 50. His cringe-worthy display at the Oscars only compounded what was already a fatal case of narcissism.


No real comment on Life is Beautiful or Benigni, but to quote GimmickAccount, "I lolled."
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PostPosted: 02.25.2004 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"but mine goes to 11 "

Anyway, i personally enjoy perversion and vulgarities in my humor, im not sure why, but I really don't enjoy thinking that much if I'm watching a comedy.



Robin Hood: Men in Tights

American Pie series

Just Married

Hear no Evil, See no Evil

HEAVY DUTY (director being Eric Beltmann)
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PostPosted: 02.25.2004 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i pwn j00 wrote:
"but mine goes to 11 "

Anyway, i personally enjoy perversion and vulgarities in my humor, im not sure why, but I really don't enjoy thinking that much if I'm watching a comedy.

Robin Hood: Men in Tights

American Pie series

Just Married

Hear no Evil, See no Evil

HEAVY DUTY (director being Eric Beltmann)


Looks like we have another West Bender among us. Welcome i pwn j00! (We're going to have to replace that unwieldy moniker with a smoother nickname, though. And until you hit 500, you own nuthin', buddy.)

Some of the best comedies demand the brain be turned off, but sometimes the most resonant, gut-busting stuff requires you to pay attention. (I'm thinking of Rushmore, or The Player.) I'm not sure I have a preference, as long as I'm laughing. By the way, This Is Spinal Tap functions on both levels, and ranks as one of my favorite comedies. Nice choice.

Eric


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PostPosted: 02.25.2004 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i pwn j00 wrote:
Anyway, i personally enjoy perversion and vulgarities in my humor, im not sure why, but I really don't enjoy thinking that much if I'm watching a comedy.


But surely the most perverse, truly subversive fare requires a quick wit? Crude is easy, but satirical bad taste is an art form. (Even Shakespeare embraced a good low-brow jibe.)

Eric
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PostPosted: 02.25.2004 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i pwn j00 wrote:
HEAVY DUTY (director being Eric Beltmann)


You know, that was the second in a series called The Custodial Trilogy. I like that one quite a bit, but the follow-up is weaker, perhaps because it stars me. I actively suppress it. Few have seen it since its local "premiere" a few years back, although there are numerous copies floating around that I can't control. But if you ask nicely...

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PostPosted: 02.25.2004 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I imagaine I will hit 500 pretty speedily as I'm often bored and looking for places to write stuff.
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PostPosted: 02.27.2004 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Big Lebowski

Office Space

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back

Deuce Bigalow

The Party

Lampoons Vacation

High Fidelity

Renvege of the nerds

I could on and on...
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PostPosted: 02.27.2004 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i pwn j00 wrote:
Well, I imagaine I will hit 500 pretty speedily as I'm often bored


Bored? Perhaps I'm too easy on you guys? That can be remedied...

(And don't you have a novel to read?) Wink

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PostPosted: 02.27.2004 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beltmann wrote:
i pwn j00 wrote:
Well, I imagaine I will hit 500 pretty speedily as I'm often bored


Bored? Perhaps I'm too easy on you guys? That can be remedied...

(And don't you have a novel to read?) Wink

Eric


This is so entertaining I almost can't even stand it.
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PostPosted: 02.27.2004 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just cause I'm bored, doesn't mean I'm done with my work. Work is boring and tedious, mainly cause its so repetitive. Also, it seems to me that alot of us are questioning how its gonna help us at all. And that whole novel thing, do you really think I'd pick a book I've never read? I do as little as possible if I can help it.
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PostPosted: 02.27.2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Advice: be un-bored so you have an excuse not to work.
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PostPosted: 02.28.2004 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of my favorites...

Chasing Amy

The Big Lebowski

Dumb and Dumber

Lost in Translation

Clerks

Dazed and Confused
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Fred C. Dobbs
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PostPosted: 03.12.2004 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In no order, just to name a few:

Horse Feathers

Modern Times

The Circus

Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein

Sherlock, Jr.

Champagne for Caesar

Punch-Drunk Love

Road to Utopia

Road to Singapore

Monkey Business

A Night at the Opera

Go West

The Jerk

Coming to America

The Big Lebowski

Office Space

Barbershop

Who Done It?

The Ghost Breakers

The Music Box

Sons of the Desert
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PostPosted: 03.12.2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sherlock, Jr. is one of my desert-island movies. I'm showing The General to my classes soon; we'll discuss how it displays certain Romantic notions of war and heroism, and how it contrasts with "Red Badge of Courage." Nearly everything by Keaton ought to be listed in this thread. I consider him one of the most gifted American geniuses to have worked in cinema.

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