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PostPosted: 05.27.2004 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the night watchman wrote:
But he is the president of NRA. Shouldn't the president of such an organization be more than a figurehead; shouldn't he be capable of defending his position and the position of the NRA at a moment's notice; shouldn?t he be capable of more than just rhetorical chest-pounding and preaching to the choir at appointed times and places? Hell, shouldn?t the president of the NRA know who Michael Moore is?


But, if Moore wants to be intelligent, then why not talk with a spokesperson? It seems as though if Heston isn't able to fight back, and Moore keeps throwing punches, it's a rediculous and disgusting act.



Also, Heston did know who Moore was, but I don't think anyone can expect that anyone who you invite into your house is going to attack you. Moore wasn't a big face before Bowling and he certainly didn't use the same tactics in Roger. Dick Clark had the right strategy. Just ignore him--there's no reason to engage in something you know will end up making you bad.
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PostPosted: 05.27.2004 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny Baldwin wrote:
the night watchman wrote:
But he is the president of NRA. Shouldn't the president of such an organization be more than a figurehead; shouldn't he be capable of defending his position and the position of the NRA at a moment's notice; shouldn?t he be capable of more than just rhetorical chest-pounding and preaching to the choir at appointed times and places? Hell, shouldn?t the president of the NRA know who Michael Moore is?


But, if Moore wants to be intelligent, then why not talk with a spokesperson?




I?m not sure why the president of the NRA should be less qualified than a spokesperson to address the issues Moore raises.



Danny Baldwin wrote:
It seems as though if Heston isn't able to fight back, and Moore keeps throwing punches, it's a rediculous and disgusting act.




The scene is certainly discomfiting. But doesn?t the question still stand: Shouldn?t Heston have able to ?fight back?? If not, how does Moore?s behavior render it irrelevant?



Danny Baldwin wrote:
Dick Clark had the right strategy. Just ignore him--there's no reason to engage in something you know will end up making you bad.




Well, Heston did eventually walk away. And I?m not sure Clark?s hasty departure saved him any face.
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PostPosted: 05.27.2004 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bristled during Moore's assault on Clark. Moore presented the moment as evidence of Clark's culpability--as if Clark's reluctance to talk proved him an elitist, corporate sleazebag. To me, though, Moore is the one that comes off poorly in the scene. As he ambushes Clark's daily business, what is Moore but an unprofessional irritant? Place yourself in Clark's position. If I had been in that parking lot, I'd have felt the same way: Drive on, and if this amateur bozo wants an interview, let him call my office like a real journalist.



I agree with NW about the Heston interview, though. Observe that scene closely. Moore actively avoids questionable editing to make Heston look worse; instead, Heston does himself in. Unless Heston is merely a senile figurehead, the questions are fair. Besides, isn't the NRA's president also its number one spokesperson?



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PostPosted: 05.27.2004 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beltmann wrote:
Unless Heston is merely a senile figurehead, the questions are fair.


That's exactly what he is.
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PostPosted: 05.27.2004 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny Baldwin wrote:
beltmann wrote:
Unless Heston is merely a senile figurehead, the questions are fair.


That's exactly what he is.


I think that assumption is as reckless--and inaccurate--as calling Moore an idiot. (Of course, I also bristle when people refer to George W. as an idiot.)



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