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PostPosted: 10.09.2003 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man Bites Dog (French film - don't have the year sorry) is another without a doubt. Quite confronting in parts and well shot. B & W.
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PostPosted: 10.09.2003 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Dentist wrote:
Man Bites Dog (French film - don't have the year sorry) is another without a doubt. Quite confronting in parts and well shot. B & W.


1992, ha, what a great movie.

Last house had a massive impact on me,

second to none.
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PostPosted: 10.09.2003 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S Great review Michael, spot on.
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PostPosted: 12.05.2004 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watching the director's cut of Dawn of the Dead, I was reminded instantly of this thread. I thought it was actually called "Violence in Film", but I guess it applies to this. I really liked the theatrical cut of the movie, but this unrated version has nine extra minutes, which are packed full of senseless violence, pretty much. My opinion has entirely changed on the movie, and, based on nine minutes of material. I guess that speaks for how much violence can impact a movie, positive or negative. I wonder if I'd still immensely enjoy the theatrical cut; that'd be interesting to test.
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PostPosted: 12.05.2004 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about Romero's or the 2004 remake? I don't remember that much more violence in Romero's extended cut.
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PostPosted: 12.05.2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danny Baldwin wrote:
I really liked the theatrical cut of the movie, but this unrated version [...]




My bad. You're talking about the 2004 version. I haven't watched the unrated cut yet.
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PostPosted: 12.05.2004 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with a lot of the movies mentioned already, esp. with Gaspar Noe's IRREVERSIBLE, which I think is one of the deepest, most important films that can depict violence in years. Not only does it function on so many layers, but every time that I've seen it, its power managed to stay with me, only getting more unbearable to watch it when you notice more of the subtleties and details that the characters make. It's a disturbing Kubrickian masterpiece that works as a beautiful film, as well.



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PostPosted: 12.05.2004 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Irreversible a lot too. I don?t agree with the charge sometimes directed at it regarding its alleged gratuitous misanthropy (not to mention misogyny, which strikes me as a rather knee-jerk reaction, since it's the men the movie casts a rather jaundice eye toward). In fact, ultimately, I find it expresses hope in the idea of free will in the face of an indifferent universe.
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PostPosted: 12.06.2004 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My bad. You're talking about the 2004 version. I haven't watched the unrated cut yet.


It completely slipped my mind to mention that I was talking about the remake. My bad.
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PostPosted: 12.06.2004 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the additional violence tainted your enjoyment, Danny? Was it just the fact that the level of violence was raised, and the movie couldn't compensate, or was there imagery you found unpalatable?
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PostPosted: 12.06.2004 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So the additional violence tainted your enjoyment, Danny? Was it just the fact that the level of violence was raised, and the movie couldn't compensate, or was there imagery you found unpalatable?


The imagery was not to my disliking. I think it was more that so much chaos and noise resulted in my being distracted from what was going on, kind of like in, say, Bad Boys II. Dawn of the Dead is a nifty movie where the characters scheme to get out of their bad situation, and I think the violence shown in the theatrical cut was incorporated well. However, the relentlessness of the sequence in which the survivors travel to the yacht seems overwhelmingly unnessecary. To me, they weren't zombies anymore, just screaming blobs. Yeah, I get that this "Desparity" is what Snyder wanted to reflect, but, to me, it only was a burdon from the movie's actual content. Oh, well, cash-in director's cuts, cash-in director's cuts...
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PostPosted: 12.06.2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kadaver wrote:
I agree with a lot of the movies mentioned already, esp. with Gaspar Noe's IRREVERSIBLE, which I think is one of the deepest, most important films that can depict violence in years. Not only does it function on so many layers, but every time that I've seen it, its power managed to stay with me, only getting more unbearable to watch it when you notice more of the subtleties and details that the characters make. It's a disturbing Kubrickian masterpiece that works as a beautiful film, as well.



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Here's an earlier thread about Irreversible, which plenty of insights both pro and con:

http://www.flipsidemovies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0



Re-reading now, I think I was perhaps too harsh towards the film--and its defenders--although I still stand behind my primary gripes. I much prefer Noe's I Stand Alone.



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PostPosted: 12.10.2004 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hana-bi.
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PostPosted: 12.10.2004 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypox wrote:
Hana-bi.


Nice choice. That's my favorite Takeshi Kitano film, largely for its perspectives regarding screen violence.



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