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beltmann
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PostPosted: 02.15.2004 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Third M?n wrote:
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Now that was predictable, Eric. Believe it or not, Commando rules. In fact, I think it may be the greatest motion picture of all time...


How's about this: I think The 6th Day is a genuinely good sci-fi picture.

Eric


Whether you really mean it or not, the film isn't. It's merely okay.


I meant it. Definitely better than okay.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I fully agree.


Unbreakable is Shyamalan's best indeed. I've seen it close to 15 times and never has it failed to astound me.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I meant it. Definitely better than okay.


Okay fine; I have to admit that I did see it in theaters upon its initial release, I own the DVD and I've probably seen it 3 or 4 times. Okay. But it's not better than Commando.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gerry - hmm

Eric


I'm dying to see this one. I've heard about it a lot, and that it's very, um, polarising and whatnot; the question is, do you think I'd like it?
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The third list!

The 25th Hour

The Apartment

Batman Returns

Chinatown

City Lights

Do the Right Thing

Duck Soup

The Elephant Man

The Evil Dead

The Evil Dead II

The Fast and the Furious

Forrest Gump

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring

The Man With The Golden Gun

The Magnificent Ambersons

Monsters Inc

Mulholland Dr.

Nosferatu (1922)

Pi

Robocop

Shrek

Signs

Star Wars: A New Hope

Torque

Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 25th Hour - n/a

The Apartment - n/a

Batman Returns - hmmm

Chinatown - PRO (or maybe pro; it's been years)

City Lights - n/a

Do the Right Thing - PRO

Duck Soup - hmmm+/pro-

The Elephant Man - PRO

The Evil Dead - PRO

The Evil Dead II - pro

The Fast and the Furious - (Vin's?) hmmm

Forrest Gump - hmmm+

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - CON

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - PRO

The Man With The Golden Gun - hmmm

The Magnificent Ambersons - n/a

Monsters Inc - pro

Mulholland Dr. - PRO

Nosferatu (1922) - pro

Pi - PRO

Robocop - PRO

Shrek - pro

Signs - con

Star Wars: A New Hope - PRO

Torque - n/a, but assumed con

Who Framed Roger Rabbit? - pro (but subject to change; again, been years)

I actually prefer Herzog's Nosferatu to the original.

I've got hopes for Shyamalan's The Villiage (aka The Woods), but I'm a tad mistrustful of him after Signs.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Evil Dead - PRO



That film is overrated. I loved it, in a way, but all in all, I'd just give it 7 out of 10 [yup, I changed my rating system]. It bothers me when people call this film "a masterpiece", because it clearly isn't -- it has flaws and some not-so-good aspects. For instance, it's often too monotonous for its own good and some special effects fail to truly convince. The film is incredibly fun, and yes, Ash rules, but it's no masterpiece, in my opinion.

Back up your opinion or you shall feel my wrath, boy.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 25th Hour - pro

Batman Returns - pro

Chinatown - PRO

City Lights - PRO

The Elephant Man - PRO

The Evil Dead - hmm+

The Fast and the Furious - con

Forrest Gump - PRO

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - CON

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - PRO

The Man With The Golden Gun - hmm+ [a childhood favorite of mine]

The Magnificent Ambersons - PRO [I'd love to have seen the "unbutchered" version -- shame it was destroyed!]

Monsters Inc - pro

Mulholland Dr. - PRO

Nosferatu (1922) - pro

Pi - pro

Shrek - pro

Signs - pro

Star Wars: A New Hope - hmm

Who Framed Roger Rabbit? - pro [been a long time, though]
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the night watchman wrote:


I actually prefer Herzog's Nosferatu to the original.


I really want to see the remake. I'm actually thinking of buying this, you know.

the night watchman wrote:


I've got hopes for Shyamalan's The Villiage (aka The Woods), but I'm a tad mistrustful of him after Signs.


Yup, I'm looking forward to that one, too. Shyamalan is one of my favourite current directors -- and I actually liked Signs a lot. Why didn't you?
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[The Evil Dead] is overrated. I loved it, in a way, but all in all, I'd just give it 7 out of 10. It bothers me when people call this film "a masterpiece", because it clearly isn't -- it has flaws and some not-so-good aspects.


Well, there's more to a movie than absolute perfection. Is The Evil Dead flawed? I'll say. Much of the acting is ludicrous (although it gets better once the scares start), the dialogue isn't any better, and, yeah, much of the SFX is pretty cheap-looking. On the other hand, taken as a whole, it works. It achieves more atmosphere in a single frame than most slick, big-budget horror movies manage in an entire running time. There's a real sense of menace and danger, since no one character can immediately be identified as the hero (unless, of course, you've seen Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness) anyone can die at any time. There's a distinct sense that the movie is not going to play by the rules. And lastly, it has the most consistantly effective, most perfectly-timed jump scares I've seen in any horror movie. It's also important to remember that the swooping, whooshing cinematography and accompanying sound effects was unprecedented in genre cinema. Those who caught The Evil Dead upon its release were witness to something never seen before.

So, is it a masterpiece? Heck, I don't know. But The Evil Dead is, without doubt, influential and groundbreaking; furthermore, I don't think it's any more flawed, by contemporary standards, that Murnau's Nosferatu.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 25th Hour - pro

The Apartment - PRO (my favorite Wilder; brilliant film)

Batman Returns - pro (favorite of the Batman series)

Chinatown - pro (one of the most thematically dark neo-noirs ever)

City Lights - PRO (one of my all-time faves)

Do the Right Thing - pro

Duck Soup - pro (not my fave example of Marx Bros. lunacy, but still hilarious)

The Elephant Man - PRO (man, you're picking all my faves; this is my personal favorite Lynch movie)

The Evil Dead - pro

The Fast and the Furious - con (the pseudo-cool tough-guy cameraderie usually annoys me more than it entertains)

Forrest Gump - pro

LOTR: Fellowship - pro (a wonder of technical prowess, but rarely more than that)

Man w/ the Golden Gun - pro

Monsters Inc. - pro (I cried at this movie, and I'm not ashamed to admit it)

Mulholland Dr. - pro

Nosferatu (1922) - PRO (masterpiece of German Expressionism)

Pi - pro

Shrek - hmm (yeah, it's gorgeous and sweet, but I was really surprised and put off by its reliance on scatological humor, which is a lot mroe desperate and a lot less funny than the movie's more successful satirical barbs)

Signs - hmm (awesome ideas of fate in this movie, but not delivered extremely well)

Who Framed Roger Rabbit? - PRO (a childhood fave, and I still think it's brilliant)
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Duck Soup - pro (not my fave example of Marx Bros. lunacy, but still hilarious)



I don't think I'll ever be able to give a Marx brothers film the full rating. And do you know why? It's because of the soppy, redundant love stories that are thrown in. Without the love story, A Night at the Opera would have been a masterpiece; but no, they had to include all those in-between songs, the unnecessary romance, etc. It's all for the detriment of the film. They do the same in A Night in Casablanca, and, while very good, the film suffers because of it.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Night at the Opera is my favorite Marx Bros. offering, and while I think it is a masterpiece (it's one of my favorite comedies), I agree that the romantic subplots are sometimes done with silly abandon. While romances like Top Hat and It Happened One Night don't seem outdated, the romantic elements in Marx Bros movies often show their age.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fully agree with both of you.
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PostPosted: 02.18.2004 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt header wrote:
A Night at the Opera is my favorite Marx Bros. offering, and while I think it is a masterpiece (it's one of my favorite comedies), I agree that the romantic subplots are sometimes done with silly abandon. While romances like Top Hat and It Happened One Night don't seem outdated, the romantic elements in Marx Bros movies often show their age.


I'm with you on this one. A Night at the Opera is my favourite, too, but it could have done without the silly love story. It's not pointless, but it's completely unnecessary and badly done. That said, the utter hilarity of the finale's surreal scenes more than makes up for it.
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