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the night watchman
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In partial defense of movies like House of 1000 Corpses, splatter flicks, and slashers, which more or less exist solely to ogle at death and violence, I'd argue that their popularity among teenagers, especially teenage boys, may assist that particular group in confronting the idea of mortality, a scary concept that is reaching them for, generally, the first time. To laugh or thrill at on-screen mayhem is to get a handhold on the fear it causes, which can function as a first step toward more sophisticated reconciliation and understanding.
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matt header
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| Posted: 08.02.2004 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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While I do agree, I wonder if as many viewers dismiss the onscreen mayhem as harmless entertainment? I detest the movies made me kill argument strongly, but I would say while some audiences see slasher movies and become aware of mortality and death, another good number see slasher movies and see it as cool, stylish anarchy. Just playing devil's advocate, mostly.
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the night watchman
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| matt header wrote: | | I detest the movies made me kill argument strongly, but I would say while some audiences see slasher movies and become aware of mortality and death, another good number see slasher movies and see it as cool, stylish anarchy. |
Yes, but even approaching cinematic violence as cool and stylish can be a step toward maturity, can't it? Is running away from it just as unproductive as thoughtless embrasing it?
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matt header
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| Posted: 08.07.2004 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Yes, but even approaching cinematic violence as cool and stylish can be a step toward maturity, can't it? Is running away from it just as unproductive as thoughtless embrasing it? |
Sorry, I haven't had the Internet for a few days, so I just got back to the forum.
Approaching cinematic violence as cool and stylish can develop a more mature, respectful attitude towards realistic violence (if only through contrast), but the viewer must acknowledge that, in movies that glorify violence, the repercussions are totally and completely different than any repercussions would be in reality if the same act of violence was committed.
In other words, if you're already a sensible, understanding, perceptive person, I don't think onscreen violence will trigger any sort of violent urge inside of you; but if you're not completely sensible and aware and are, shall we say, unstable, glorification of violence in films can mirror itself disturbingly in the viewer. Mind you, I'm NOT saying such an event would be the movie's fault; it is always the culprit's fault.
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beltmann
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I'm the first person to defend the artistic use of violence in cinema--there's a difference between a violent movie and a movie about violence, or one that uses carnage as useful abstractions--but I also think it requires a rather steep set of rationalizations to pretend that no films are irresponsible with their imagery, violent or otherwise. To my mind, a primary reason why cinema matters is precisely because it does have power, and negative imagery--however we choose to define that--wields that power at a certain social cost.
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