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The Third M?n
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PostPosted: 02.12.2004 7:45 pm    Post subject: Finest cinematography? Reply with quote

Black and White

Citizen Kane

The Seventh Seal

Touch of Evil

Psycho

Raging Bull

L'Avventura

Rashomon

The Third Man

L'Atalante



Colour

Vertigo

Stalker

Lawrence of Arabia

Dances With Wolves

The Lord of the Rings

Three Colours: Blue

Sleepy Hollow

Apocalypse Now

North by Northwest

Rear Window

The Straight Story



There are loads more, but either I have not seen them or I simply can't remember them -- these are just off the top of my head. What are your picks? Discuss.
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PostPosted: 02.12.2004 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't we do something like this before? Well, off the top of my head the ones that made me lean forward in my seat and say "Holy crap!":

Crash

Blade Runner

Eraserhead

Apocalypse Now

Psycho

Pi

Barton Fink

The Piano

Touch of Evil

Curse of the Cat People

The Last of the Mohicans

8 1/2

Roma

Minority Report

Frankenstein/Bride of Frankenstein

Vampyr

The Third Man


Here's some others in which the photography cannot be parsed easily from the special effects:

Dark City

The Matrix

The Lord of the Rings
trilogy
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PostPosted: 02.13.2004 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm more interested in discussing what we mean by "good" cinematography. How do we arrive at that distinction? How are form and content balanced; how do we weigh subject matter against pure technique? To what degree does form and content influence one another? Is the cinematography of Lawrence of Arabia "great" because it is pictorially astonishing, psychologically evocative, or technically challenging? Can we weigh those against one another?

Dissect the equation.

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PostPosted: 02.13.2004 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, thanks to MTV, we live in a time when nearly all movies are photographed beautifully. Heck, even the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake looked great. But I'd suggest that great cinematography uses style to aid narrative. Does TCM 2003's flash help to tell the story? I don't think so. That said, I would stick with both my list and Mr. Lime's as examples of great cinematography.
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PostPosted: 02.13.2004 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the night watchman wrote:
But I'd suggest that great cinematography uses style to aid narrative.


Of course I agree. It's rare that a major commercial release isn't slick, pretty, perfectly shot and perfectly edited. But technical mastery isn't the same thing as great art. Off the top of my head, I remember being impressed recently by Requiem for a Dream, Master and Commander, Far from Heaven, The Son, Truman Show, Tully, The Pianist, Hero, Catch Me If You Can, Pistol Opera, COnfessions of a Dangerous Mind and Auto Focus.

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PostPosted: 12.11.2004 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sansho the Bailiff

Maborosi

L'Avventura

Mirror

8 1/2

Citizen Kane

The Sheltering Sky

Night of the Hunter

Uzak

L'Atalante

Ugetsu Monogatari

Miss Oyu

Persona

The Conformist

The Searchers

Sunrise

Black Narcissus

Alexander Nevsky

The Double Life of Veronique
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PostPosted: 02.11.2005 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm, I'm not just mentioning this cause it won an award for it, but how could anyone forget Braveheart?

Braveheart

And I totally agree that Dark City sets its own standard too. Love that movie.

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PostPosted: 02.15.2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry Lyndon.
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PostPosted: 05.20.2005 7:21 pm    Post subject: the shooters Reply with quote

The Straight Story was breathtaking... good call



Hudsucker Proxy

The Shining

The English Patient

Repulsion

Happy Together

Blade Runner

The Insider

7 Years in Tibet

Chung King Express

Strangers on A Train



Really, anything and everything Chris Doyle should be on that list
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PostPosted: 06.10.2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: apocalypse now Reply with quote

stunning movie. beautiful cinematography. has anyone seen the hyped up sin city? how was that?
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PostPosted: 06.14.2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mixed reveiws were made about the film here, mainly negative. It was an amazing movie visually but fell short in most other aspects.
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PostPosted: 06.15.2005 12:19 am    Post subject: Re: the shooters Reply with quote

a35mmlife wrote:
The Straight Story was breathtaking... good call



Hudsucker Proxy

The Shining

The English Patient

Repulsion

Happy Together

Blade Runner

The Insider

7 Years in Tibet

Chung King Express

Strangers on A Train



Really, anything and everything Chris Doyle should be on that list


i just want to add more to my list__

The Straight Story

Even Cowgirls Get The Blues

The Killing of a Chinese Bookie

3 Kings
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PostPosted: 07.12.2005 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenji mentioned it, but having just viewed it I gotta give it props...

The Conformist. Vittorio Storaro's cinematography is amazing -- an astonishing use of light, shadow, and color.
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PostPosted: 07.12.2005 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael B. Scrutchin wrote:
Kenji mentioned it, but having just viewed it I gotta give it props...

The Conformist. Vittorio Storaro's cinematography is amazing -- an astonishing use of light, shadow, and color.


Let me guess: You taped it from TCM over the weekend, like I did? I had been looking for a copy of that for 15 years, and never saw it on VHS nor DVD. Is there an upcoming release planned? (My standalone DVD recorder takes such a fine digital image from Turner that I'm perfectly content with the copy I now have--except for the English dubbing.)

I actually started watching it this afternoon, but only managed to get 30 minutes in before The Spawn needed my attention. I'm gonna try to finish it tomorrow morning.

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PostPosted: 07.12.2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beltmann wrote:
Let me guess: You taped it from TCM over the weekend, like I did?


Yup.

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Is there an upcoming release planned?


Paramount still owns the rights, so it's up to them, but I haven't heard anything.

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(My standalone DVD recorder takes such a fine digital image from Turner that I'm perfectly content with the copy I now have--except for the English dubbing.)


Yeah, the English dubbing was kinda bothersome, but the Italian-language version would be dubbed, too, right? Most Italian films of the time were shot silent and later dubbed into different languages for different markets. Perhaps the Italian-dubbed version would be better, though, since most of the actors would be voicing themselves -- but, still, some of the Italian dubbing on Fellini pictures tends to bug me.
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